This was a discussion between at least a dozen people, yet only those First few are used here topically. I'd stumbled across the conversation and found it interestingly appealing; though I've already read the subject material in "Dreams From My Father", by Barack Obama; "The Case Against Barack Obama, by David Freddoso; and "The ObamaNation", by Dr. Jerome Corsi (the latter two I own).
Some of the information contained in the following posts are hyperbole, but the responding commenters appear to clear up the scurrilous numbers and percentages that come into question. Be sure to read in its entirety by clicking "MORE" below for the FULL Story; as this (and in most of my articles) is merely an Excerpt of the full content and context.
Note: Some of the posts mentioned I edited to remove unnecessary links, post numbers, seriously inflammatory rhetoric, or the obsessive use of Obama's middle name, Hussein, etc.. Though the site's address is not posted, the ideas in the original poster's comments are cause for concern, and will be followed up in a separate article.
The Muslim Side of Mr. Obama
Posted on 10/17/2008 2:43:01 PM PDT by Former Farmer
Pressures to be politically correct prohibit considering Barack Obama's Muslim side, or even mentioning his middle name. How Muslim is he? Consider these issues.
1. Born a Muslim. The man who sired the candidate was an African Muslim named Barack Hussein Obama, who named his son his own African-Muslim name. The name "Hussein" is Arabic for "good," and is normally (predominantly) given only to Muslims.
2. A Muslim by Law. Muslim law assigns the faith according to the religion of the father. Since his father was Muslim, by Muslim law (and in the eyes of the Muslim world) Barack Hussein Obama was and is a Muslim.
3. Raised a Muslim. After his biological father abandoned the family (B.H.O. Jr. was just 2), his mother married another Muslim, Lolo Soetoro, who moved the family to Indonesia. Little Hussein was was first enrolled in a Catholic school as a Muslim student, then enrolled as a Muslim in a government school. This was not a fanatical madrassa, as has been falsely reported. However, Muslim students were required to study Islam, read the Koran (Qu'ran) and learn Muslim prayers. Barack Hussein Obama Jr. (hereinafter referred to by first and last name only; unless otherwise noted as "Sr. or "Senior", to indicate his father of the same name) himself confirms his Muslim roots, stating in one of his autobiographies, "Dreams of My Father", that he got in trouble for "cutting up" in Koran class. Only Muslims were allowed in Koran class.
4. A Muslim by Profession. Barack Obama, in an interview with George Stephanopolous, said, "You're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith." While this may be an unconscious revelation, or Freudian slip, it also might have been a mere gaffe. A man's tongue may slip, but will not slip into fluent Arabic unless he knows Arabic. Barack Obama recited Muslim; the Muslim shahada, in perfect Arabic to New York Times reporter Nicholas Kristoff. The shahada is the First Pillar of Islam, the most basic Muslim confession of faith, stating "there is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is his prophet." This is comparable to the Christian confession of faith, "Jesus is Lord." Very few Christians can, and even fewer would, pray the shahada in perfect Arabic. Obama then called the shahada “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth.”
5. A Mystery Month in Muslim Culture. As a young man, Barack Obama traveled to Pakistan; How long he stayed is uncertain: his campaign says three weeks; other sources, several months. According to Insight Magazine, whose in-depth coverage included an investigation launched by none other that Hillary Clinton during the Democrat Presidential Primaries, finds evidence that Obama spent at least four years in a so-called Madrassa, or Muslim seminary, in Indonesia. In two best-selling autobiographies—"The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream" and "Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance" - Mr. Obama, born in Honolulu where his parents met, mentions but does not expand on his Muslim background, alluding only to his attendance at a "predominantly Muslim school."
Barack Obama deliberately skewed the timeline of his life and education to shroud the Truth of his real background. What he ultimately learned or decided, during this immersion, remains unknown.
6. Mystery Money for Elite Education. After returning from his immersion in that Muslim country, Barack Obama proceeded to an elite, Ivy League education: an undergraduate degree from Columbia, and a law degree from Harvard. The Obama campaign admits that he received no scholarship money from Harvard, but claims he self-funded his education through loans. Obama himself barred Harvard from releasing any financial records. Why would he ban access to records if they would verify his claim?
Further, there are scores of documents regarding his background that would open what some call "Pandora's Box" for his Presidential Bid... which is why he, along with his Campaign Advisors, have kept them tightly sealed and under wraps; far away from public consumption or media dissimination. (One such Supressed Document is forthcoming in my next post. I would list it here, but there is already too much to digest.)
7. Endorsed by Foreign America-Haters. Obama has been endorsed by such World-Leaders as: Fidel Castro, Kim Jong Il, and Muammar Qaddafi. Muslim terrorist groups like Hamas and Hezbollah openly endorse Barack Obama. Hamas and Hezbollah both are heavily funded by Iran. Obama has offered to meet, without preconditions, with Iran's Achmedinajad, who denies the Holocaust and pledges to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Barack Obama has described Iran as a small nation that is no threat to Israel. So, he's either extremely naive, or willing to gamble with the lives of our promised allies, the Israelis; which would undoubtedly provoke a Worldwide War.
8. Surrounded by Domestic America-Haters. The inner circle around Barack Obama includes the man he said he consulted before making any major decisions, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. The worldview of Jeremiah Wright sounds like an ominous echo of Osama bin Laden. Osama said the massive terrorist attack on 9/11 was just America getting back what it had done to others; Jeremiah called it America's chickens coming home to roost. Osama calls America the Great Satan which must be destroyed; Jeremiah calls for God to damn America. How can Barack Obama repudiate the worldview of one of these soulmates, while he has sat for twenty years under the teaching of one of the other soulmates?
Black Muslim potentate Louis Farrakhan has condemned America so often and so severely he needs no citations. Probably the closest to Barack Obama is his wife Michele, who has called America a mean place and stated she has never been proud of America before her husband's run for the Presidency. Her scowling face shows a hate that one cannot even imagine on the face of a Cindy McCain or a Sarah Palin.
9. Serving 57 states. In another slip of the tongue that could reveal hidden beliefs, or could just be a really stupid statement, Barack Obama stated that he had campaigned in 57 states. In the fatigue of a long campaign, mistakes are expected and overlooked. A Harvard graduate is probably smarter than a fifth grader, and a fifth grader knows we have 50 states. The intrigue comes from the number 57. Why not 51 or 54 or 72? The number 57 makes sense in one context: all the Muslim nations belong to the Organization of the Islamic Conference - all 57 of them.
10. Campaigning in Kenya. While a U.S. Senator, Hussein Obama traveled to Kenya and campaigned for a presidential candidate named Railo Odingo. It was widely reported that Odinga had committed (in writing) to impose Muslim law, Sharia, and re-write the constitution within six months to conform to the Koran. Whether or not this is true, why was Barack Obama interfering in the internal politics of a foreign nation? If John McCain campaigned for a partisan candidate in Scotland on the grounds that his ancestors came from there, everyone would see it as almost insane. Some of Barack Obama's mistakes may be simple goofs (I'll bomb Pakistan) or at worst meaningful slips (my Muslim faith). It requires a conscious, deliberate decision to travel to another continent (on the taxpayer's dime) and interfere in the internal politics of another nation. Either Obama was supporting a hidden (Muslim) agenda, or he was showing appallingly bad judgment. Neither belongs in the Oval Office.
All these facts are in the public record. Why can they not be considered when asked? Why must the Far-Left denounce us for asking them? Why do we have to... when/because the Media won't?___________
I hate the guy as much as anybody, but he ain’t a Muslim. I can see his wife’s head, which would be a disgrace and an embarrassment if he were one. - 10/17/2008 2:46:34 PM PDT by wolfpat
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Absolutely jaw-dropping-stupifying!
About to elect a Muslim to the White House when we’re at war with Islam.
ARE WE GOING TO TAKE THIS INSANITY WITHOUT A FIGHT?
McCain’s anemic attempts to fight Obama back is losing this election.
Flood McCain out with emails. DEMAND he fight back HARD - name names!
Please go to http://www.protestthemedia.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=7 and pick up all the email addresses to the McCain camp and HUNDREDS of emails of MSM.
CAN THEY IGNORE A MILLION EMAILS? - 10/17/2008 2:48:11 PM PDT by patriot08
He was never a Muzzie Wuzzie. His mommy and baby-daddy were atheists, 3rd World Marxists who had little use for religion. B. Hussein only started going to church because the Chicago preachers said that was the only way he could get anything out of them. - 10/17/2008 2:55:20 PM PDT by HammerOfTheDogs
Because it’s just not fair. He claims to be black and you are not supposed to say anything about that. Truth is he is about 67% Arab. But you aren’t supposed to say that either. I don’t have a problem with a black President......but not this one. - 10/17/2008 2:58:25 PM PDT by RC2
No Muslim who intends to go on breathing will EVER make the mistake of identifying himself/herself as a Christian, and certainly not nationally, let alone world-wide. Obama identifies himself as a Christian, so really, we have to make this Muslim thing a non-issue. It ain’t happening. - 10/17/2008 2:58:36 PM PDT by Max7
maybe not a Mohammedan, but this is the guy who thinks “The Prettiest Sound On Earth At Sunset Is The Muslim Call To Prayer” - 10/17/2008 3:04:11 PM PDT by stylin19a ( Real Men don't declare unplayable lies)
No, only 37.5% arab. 50% white, 12.5% black. - 10/17/2008 3:10:59 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney
(My book is out. Read excerpts at www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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I understand hes' only 7% black. Government says a person must be 12% black to be "considered" black. So now they will change the numbers to draw in the black vote. I am beginning to see even black voters turning against him now. Some are beginning to see through his lies. - 10/17/2008 3:58:47 PM PDT by RC2
Who says he considers her his real wife? - 10/17/2008 4:16:52 PM PDT by donna
Some of the 9/11 terrorists had visited strip clubs. Islamic terrorists make their own rules. - 10/17/2008 4:25:25 PM PDT by donna
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Good point. I never considered that. - 10/17/2008 5:15:40 PM PDT by wolfpat
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"I understand he is only 7% black." - Where did you hear that?
I’ve heard that the “Obama is an Arab” notion originated with a guy by the name of Kenneth Lamb. Supposedly, he didn’t give any evidence to support his allegation. A better source for criticism about Obama is the book “The case against Barack Obama”, by David Freddoso, where he makes a rather good point indicating that all the hearsay about Obama - being a Muslim; that he’s an Arab - may actually be doing our cause more harm than good, in that it makes people ignore legitimate criticism of the Obamessiah. - 10/18/2008 2:43:13 PM PDT by Jacob Kell
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Maybe so; but either way we're looking at "Distraction Politics", a favorite game of the Democrat Party. Hopefully, we can cut through the tall stuff here and start asking some questions...
- NationsPatriot
(Originally posted 10/30/08 on NationsPatriot.com)
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